Thursday, April 06, 2006

Racism in Egypt



I will discuss another societal ill in Egypt: Racism. I will also link the sick nature of Egyptians' racism to the perverted teaching of Muhammad. I wrote a post on Muslim privilege and another on toxic Islamic racism. I discussed how Muslims treat Christians as second class citizens and how they attack their properties. Muslims lose it when Christians attempt to build a church and explode in their anger to kill them and destroy their properties. See, the Muslim god, Allah, is a weak impotent god that cannot defend himself and needs some sick perverts to defend him. I will show you how Muhammad taught his followers to be racists against blacks by referring to quotes from the Qu’ran and Islamic oral traditions. These quotes were directed towards blacks and may explain why blacks (Nubian people) in Egypt are discriminated against and made fun of. For example, Muhammad Heneedy, one of Egypt's famous comedians, constantly makes fun of blacks in his movies and in one movie scene he saw a black woman and commented: “did the light go off?” He also calls blacks Chocolates/Raisins
Here are the quotes

Qur’an 9:61 “Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey’s.’”

Ishaq:243 “I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!’ He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks…. Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom.”

Ishaq:450 “It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah’s army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent.

Ishaq:374 “The black troops and slaves of the Meccans cried out and the Muslims replied, ‘Allah destroy your sight, you impious rascals.’”

Bukhari:V4B52N137 “The Prophet said, ‘Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him.... If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.’

Also see my post Muhammad: kill and Humiliate Christians
I want to thank Craig Winn for this material
Also check this site for Nubian voices

33 Comments:

Blogger xavier said...

Maged:
Very interesting. There's a creepy parallelism with the Mormons. They hled until very recently that blacks were sons of Satan (or had his mark) Black Moromons couldn't enter the temple.

Here's the biblical commandments on how to treat strangers
What a distinct contrast. Again the Moslem apologists won't be able to explain away so easily that the Jews and Christians so throughly corrupted the Bible that God had to rescind those commandments and allow Mohammed to mock blacks.

xavier
I hope you don't hate me as I'm white ;)

9:01 PM  
Blogger maged salamah said...

Xavier,
I am not quite sure why do you think I hate you because you are white. I may have given a wrong impression when I spoke out against Bush and racist white suprmacists who think that they are better than anyone else. I apologize if I offended you.

9:54 PM  
Blogger xavier said...

Maged:
Please don't apologize. I wasn't offended; just surprised at the vehement emotion that I most likely misunderstood from this sentence:

I am sure my anger towards Whites and Muslims would not have been that intense if this incident did not take place. I was consumed by the toxic effects of prejudice and I dehumanized those who discriminated against me.
And the context is how the Americans give the Moslem money to sponsor terrorism (via buying their oil)

Again no apologies necessary.

I'm no fan of Bush and regard him as a flawed man. However, I much prefer him than the Democratic party. Its members and supporters are profundly unhinged.

10:29 PM  
Blogger Egypeter said...

He. I agree with you xavier.

And, actually, I'm a pretty big supporter of Bush. I think one of the biggest flaws of this presidency, and the country as a whole, is the dependency of ME oil. It's not only Bush that will be buddies with the Saudis but any other president until we get ourselves off of foreign oil.

I am a whole-hearted Coptic Republican :)

1:46 AM  
Blogger maged salamah said...

Xavier,
I honestly do not think that there is any difference between Bush and Osama Ben Chicken. Both killed people needlessly without any remorse, mercy or regrets. The fact that Bush did not apologize for his sick war proves the death of his conscience and the ability to acknowledge mistakes. I wish that they impeach this miscreant

7:38 AM  
Blogger maged salamah said...

Egypeter,
I recpect your political preference, but please do not be offended when I trash Bush :)

7:39 AM  
Blogger xavier said...

Maged:
Fair enough, we have some political differences but my opinion about Bush is irrelevant since I'm not an American and never voted for him.

Moving back to the theme: are there any Nubian Copts. If so, how bad is their discrimination? How toxic has racism become in Egypt and has it affected the Copts as well? When Moslem Egyptians go abroad to the peninsula, who are they treated?

xavier

8:57 AM  
Blogger maged salamah said...

Xavier,
Unfortunately, most Nubians were forced to convert by the Muslim fascists. However, they maintained their culture and protect it against the perversion of Islam. Muhammad Moneir, one of Egypt's most talented singer, is a Nubian, who always speaks out against the oppression of Nubians by the Arabs.

4:36 PM  
Blogger xavier said...

Maged:
Thanks. Really silly question but do the Nubian speak Arab or a language similar to Copt? Any examples of just how badly the Nubians are treated? I suspect that they're the dumb ox in all the bad jokes?
xavier

4:39 PM  
Blogger maged salamah said...

Xavier,
Check out this site; you will get more information
http://www.nubiatoday.info/

4:44 PM  
Blogger xavier said...

Maged:
Thanks!
xavier

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

‏حدثنا ‏ ‏قبيصة ‏ ‏قال حدثنا ‏ ‏سفيان ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏منصور ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏إبراهيم ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏الأسود ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏عائشة ‏ ‏قالت ‏
‏كنت أغتسل أنا والنبي ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏من إناء واحد كلانا جنب وكان يأمرني ‏ ‏فأتزر ‏ ‏فيباشرني وأنا حائض وكان يخرج رأسه إلي وهو معتكف فأغسله وأنا حائض
ya gahel ya elly msh betefham el 7adees da ma3nah that whenever she had the period he tell he to wear something like a skirt because(‏فأتزر)is a verb means (wear الازار)which is piece of cloth worn around the waist then (يباشرني)means to stay very close to me and i worked these words out from the arabic dictionary. it means that he did other ways but not actual sex because she had her period and don't publish things that u don't understand and i'll work hard to prove that u know nothing

1:30 PM  
Blogger maged salamah said...

no يباشرني) means have sex with me. Please go ask any Arab linguistic or any one who know that hadeeth and they will tell you that this word means "to have sex." Do not call me ignorant because I also read el tafseer.

1:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no u dunno anything

1:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

omal leeh enta maradetsh 3la el comment elly katabtaha leeek 3andk lma bet2ol en el rasoola 2al el nesa2 msh haykhosho el ganna w keda????????? te7eb aktebha leek tany hena 3shan te2ra??

1:41 PM  
Blogger maged salamah said...

i did habibet alby i just saw it now. see my response

1:47 PM  
Blogger maged salamah said...

here is another hadeeth ‏أخبرنا ‏ ‏الحارث بن مسكين ‏ ‏قراءة عليه وأنا أسمع عن ‏ ‏ابن وهب ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏يونس ‏ ‏والليث ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏ابن شهاب ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏حبيب ‏ ‏مولى ‏ ‏عروة ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏بدية ‏ ‏وكان ‏ ‏الليث ‏ ‏يقول ‏ ‏ندبة ‏ ‏مولاة ‏ ‏ميمونة ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏ميمونة ‏ ‏قالت ‏
‏كان رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏يباشر ‏ ‏المرأة من نسائه وهي حائض إذا كان عليها إزار يبلغ أنصاف الفخذين والركبتين ‏ ‏في حديث ‏ ‏الليث ‏ ‏محتجزة به ‏


شرح سنن النسائي للسيوطي
شرح سنن النسائي للسندي



شرح سنن النسائي للسندي

‏قوله ( عن بدية ) ‏
‏بضم موحدة وفتح دال مهملة وبياء مشددة ‏
‏( يقول ندبة ) ‏
‏بفتح نون ودال جميعا آخره موحدة وقيل بسكون الدال وحكي بضم النون وسكون الدال ‏
‏قوله ( يباشر المرأة ) ‏
‏قال السيوطي أي يستمتع في غير الفرج ‏
‏( أنصاف الفخذين والركبتين ) ‏
‏لعل المراد تارة يبلع أنصاف الفخذين وتارة الركبتين ‏
‏( محتجزة به ) ‏
‏بزاي معجمة أي شادة له على حجزها وهو وسطها . ‏



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شرح سنن النسائي للسيوطي

‏( عن حبيب مولى عروة ) ‏
‏هو تابعي روى عن أسماء بنت الصديق , وليس له عند المصنف وأبي داود سوى هذا الحديث , وله عند مسلم حديث آخر ‏
‏( عن بدية , وكان الليث يقول ندبة ) ‏
‏الأول بضم الباء الموحدة وفتح الدال المهملة والياء المشددة , والثاني بفتح النون والدال بعدها باء موحدة , ذكره عبد الحق في الأحكام قال الدارقطني ندبة بفتح النون والدال فقال أهل اللغة : هو ندبة الدال ساكن انتهى وقال ابن حزم في المحلى : أبو داود يروي هذا الحديث عن الليث فقال ندبة بفتح النون والدال ومعمر يرويه ويقول ندبة بضم النون وإسكان الدال ويونس يقول بدية بالباء المضمومة والدال المفتوحة والياء المشددة , وحكى المزي في التهذيب قولا آخر أنها بدنة بفتح الباء الموحدة والدال المهملة بعدها نون ‏
‏( يباشر المرأة ) ‏
‏أي يستمتع في غير الفرج ‏
‏( محتجزة به ) ‏
‏بالزاي أي شادة له على حجزتها , وهو وسطها , وروى المصنف في الكبرى بلفظ محتجزته ‏

He has sex with her after she put some clothes. He thinks that the clothes will absorb the blood so that his genitals would not be soiled:

http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=3&Rec=468

1:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no no that means that he made her make her legs so close and he did it between the legs not actuall sex bardo

2:07 PM  
Blogger maged salamah said...

he did what ya habibty... he had other women, so why could not he do it with them? begad ana 7azeen 3aleeky

3:15 PM  
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I have to do a school project and I also find it very interesting.

3:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is a joke I heard here in Egypt. A Sudanese man is at home entertaining his father-in-law. The man's wife knocks at the door. The man tells his father-in-law to open the door for his daughter. The father-in-law tells him to open the door for his wife. The man says: "I divorce her."

Anyway, that's all the discrimination I have to report from my personal experience.

I have heard that local Egyptians treat Asians like their stupid. Can anyone give me a clue as to where I could research this topic. I think it's particularly interesting now, since the Olympics is in China. Thank you. (lelynmasters@yahoo.com)

6:49 AM  
Anonymous الاخضاري said...

I am offended at this qibti because he is an ultimate liar who just hates islaam because his lord gave dominion to the arabs over tuhe christians. Treating nubians have nothing to do with islaam at all. The proofs that the qibti brought was just plain amateur and lies.
First. Nabtal ibn harith from bani ladhaan ibn 'amr ibn 'auf was an 100 percent arab from medina. so where is the racism here?? he was not in indian or african or aborigine, he was 100% arab like egypt is. He was a hypocrite(pretended to be a muslim to destroy islaam) and mocked the prophet by calling him names(may allah destroy him)A verse was revealed about him. He was an annoying person regardless of his skin color, hair length, body size, complexion of his cheeks. come on with this cover up.It is just a description of the dark-skinned hypocrite.
second: black slaves being in the hellfire for fighting the prophet deserve nothing but hellfire. that is just plain obvious. I dont see anybody making any noise about pharoah who tried to merc musa and banu israeel or jalut(goliath) trying to kill dud(david on the battle field and so on and so on. think ya qibti
ولكن شديدا العلم للحجر
third: "let the negro slave perish...." quote is a straight up and down lie against the prophet. U r like nabtal
يا مستقبطي في حقيقة رومي
dont ever lie on the prophet. he said perish the slave of the dinar perish the slave of the dirham perish the slave of the khamisa...."
fourth: His heart is grosser than a donkey is incorrect. It says his kidney is tougher or harder than the kidneys of a donkey(meaning bad character, harsh person to the truth)
If these are the people tha you defend then you are weird and lost. But we all know that you have an agenda. may egypt stay arab and muslim

8:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are a shameless liar

The Quran 9:61 says

وَمِنۡہُمُ ٱلَّذِينَ يُؤۡذُونَ ٱلنَّبِىَّ وَيَقُولُونَ هُوَ أُذُنٌ۬‌ۚ قُلۡ أُذُنُ خَيۡرٍ۬ لَّڪُمۡ يُؤۡمِنُ بِٱللَّهِ وَيُؤۡمِنُ لِلۡمُؤۡمِنِينَ وَرَحۡمَةٌ۬ لِّلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ مِنكُمۡ‌ۚ وَٱلَّذِينَ يُؤۡذُونَ رَسُولَ ٱللَّهِ لَهُمۡ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ۬

And of them are those who vex the Prophet and say: He is only a hearer. Say: A hearer of good for you, who believeth in Allah and is true to the believers, and a mercy for such of you as believe. Those who vex the messenger of Allah, for them there is a painful doom. (61)

You quote from Ishaq which isnt even a reliable source and you LIE about the hadith in Bukhari which never mentions "negro"

The Prophet sallAllahu alayhi wasalaam in his last sermon said
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The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), during his Last Sermon in Minâ, said: “O people! Your Lord is one Lord, and you all share the same father. There is no preference for Arabs over non-Arabs, nor for non-Arabs over Arabs. Neither is their preference for white people over black people, nor for black people over white people. Preference is only through righteousness.” Then he said: “Have I conveyed the message?” and the people declared that he had. [Musnad Ahmad (22391)]

10:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The funny thing is when the Muslims sent a delegation to Egypt for the first time it was led by a black man and the Coptic emperor refused to see him!

The following quotation shows how the issue of color was irrelevant to the early Muslims:


“Take away the black man! I can have no discussion with him,” exclaimed the Christian Archbishop Cyrus when the Arab conquerors had sent a deputation of their ablest men to discuss terms of surrender of the capital of Egypt, headed by Negro `Ubaydah as the ablest of them all. To the sacred Archbishop`s astonishment, he was told that this man was commissioned by General `Amr; that the Moslems held Negroes and white men in equal respect judging a man by his character and not by his colour. Leeder, S.S., Veiled Mysteries of Egypt (London, 1912), p.332.

10:56 AM  
Blogger delightfulsin_vittorio said...

man are you stupid or ARE you stupid ? islam is bigger and stronger than u think..

read this u prick, and check out what the cnn had to say about islam, and this goes for all of u who doubt islam, and im sorry to inform u that all of ur efforts are as fruitless and as vain as ur life..


Fastest-growing religion

The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity, Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.

Some scholars see an emerging Muslim renaissance as Islam takes root in many traditionally Christian communities.

7:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know the funny thing is that you never read the Quran before hahahahahahaha

Man Allah never describes a person in this way + I don't think it will take any person more than 1 min searching in Quran to see that your fakin it.

Still i have to thank you for this funny article hahahahahahahahahaha

4:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are so ignorant!!! Have you read the Quran???.... Clearly you haven't!!! You are a liar.The Quran doesn't say that. I looked in my QUran 9:61"And among them are men who annoy the prophet (Muhammed) and say: " he listens to what is best for you; he believes in Allah; has faith in the believers; and is a mercy to those of you who believe" but those who annoy Allahs messanger will have a painful torment". That's what it says. LOOK IT UP!!! It doesn't even mention anything about the angel Gabriel, or black people being gross like donkeys!!! You are a liar!!! Stop slandering the Quran... The is NO CHAPTER in the Quran called Ishaq!! ... I hope the people who read this have enough sense to confirm the crap you are talking by actually reading the Quran... You are a liar and a loser... Get a life. You have no credibility!!! Find a new hobby

12:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As an atheist, I never depend on the Hadiths when trying to know something about Islam. The Hadiths could have been distorted over time quite easily; contrary to the Qur'an, which has a few copies surviving to this very day, which does not imply that the Qur’an is devoid of any distortion. Also, the verse you mentioned does not hold true, it has a totally different text. Anyway, Hadiths are not that credible if you think about it. Perhaps you should be more alert to the information you provide on your blog than you currently are.

I understand your hatred for religion is perfectly natural, but you are being just as uptight as religious people are, just like the person who commented before me. Take it easy.

5:17 AM  

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